{"id":13099,"date":"2023-10-11T10:23:25","date_gmt":"2023-10-11T10:23:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.pakistaninewspaperlist.com\/live-and-let-live-cjp-isa-says-sc-and-parliament-not-enemies-can-co-exist\/"},"modified":"2023-10-11T10:23:25","modified_gmt":"2023-10-11T10:23:25","slug":"live-and-let-live-cjp-isa-says-sc-and-parliament-not-enemies-can-co-exist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pakistaninewspaperlist.com\/news\/live-and-let-live-cjp-isa-says-sc-and-parliament-not-enemies-can-co-exist\/","title":{"rendered":"\u2018Live and let live\u2019: CJP Isa says SC and Parliament not enemies, can co-exist"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<div dir=\"auto\">\n<p>Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Qazi Faez Isa on Wednesday said the Parliament was not an enemy of the Supreme Court and both institutions could function simultaneously, citing the phrase \u201clive and let live\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe world moves forward together, not antagonistically,\u201d the apex judge said.<\/p>\n<p>He passed these remarks while heading the full court bench, consisting of all 15 judges of the top court, hearing a set of petitions challenging the Supreme Court (Practice &amp; Procedure) Act, 2023. The proceedings, like all the previous times, are being streamed live on television.<\/p>\n<p>Headed by CJP Isa, the bench consists Justice Sardar Tariq Masood, Justice Ijazul Ahsan, Justice Syed Mansoor Ali Shah, Justice Munib Akhtar, Justice Yahya Afridi, Justice Aminuddin Khan, Justice Sayyed Mazahar Ali Akbar Naqvi, Justice Jamal Khan Mandokhel, Justice Muhammad Ali Mazhar, Justice Ayesha A. Malik, Justice Athar Minallah, Justice Syed Hasan Azhar Rizvi, Justice Shahid Waheed and Justice Musarrat Hilali.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"media  w-full  w-full  media--stretch  media--embed  \">\n<p><div class=\"ast-oembed-container \" style=\"height: 100%;\"><iframe title=\"LIVE SC Hears Plea Against Law Limiting CJP Powers | Justice Qazi Faez Isa | \ud835\udc03\ud835\udc1a\ud835\udc30\ud835\udc27 \ud835\udc0d\ud835\udc1e\ud835\udc30\ud835\udc2c \ud835\udc04\ud835\udc27\ud835\udc20\ud835\udc25\ud835\udc22\ud835\udc2c\ud835\udc21\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/tD9bn1pV25I?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p>The practice and procedure law, which was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dawn.com\/news\/1747063\">passed by parliament in April<\/a>, requires a committee of three senior judges to form benches for constitutional matters and suo motu notices.<\/p>\n<p>It has been seen by the petitioners as an attempt by the government to curtail the chief justice\u2019s powers.<\/p>\n<p>In April, the Supreme Court, then led by former chief justice Umar Ata Bandial, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dawn.com\/news\/1747432\/in-pre-emptive-strike-sc-renders-bill-clipping-cjps-powers-ineffective-when-it-becomes-law\">barred the government<\/a> from implementing the law until the petitions challenging it were decided.<\/p>\n<p>At the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dawn.com\/news\/1780450\/cjp-loses-his-train-of-thought-amid-cross-talk\">previous hearing<\/a>, an exchange between judges and counsel hinted at the disquiet among judges over the court\u2019s workings.<\/p>\n<p>Justice Ijazul Ahsan observed that when the parliament makes a law to interfere in the internal workings of the apex court, the insulation provided to the Supreme Court by being empowered to manage its inner workings goes away, and it opens gates for interference.<\/p>\n<p>Besides, no law can be struck down on the grounds of the floodgates argument, but by the exclusion of cases and in view of the very small number of Article 184(3) cases, the dangers of the floodgates argument are substantially reduced, he said.<\/p>\n<p>After the proceedings adjourned, Advocate Uzair Bhandari requested the CJP to include the names of the associates in the attendance sheet. \u201cOnly on condition that the lawyer furnishes an affidavit stating his associates have been remunerated appropriately,\u201d said CJP Isa.<\/p>\n<h2><a id=\"the-hearing\" href=\"#the-hearing\" class=\"heading-permalink\" aria-hidden=\"true\" title=\"Permalink\"\/>The hearing<\/h2>\n<p>At the outset of the hearing today, Attorney General for Pakistan (AGP) Mansoor Usman Awan presented his submissions. He said his arguments would be based on the government\u2019s written response submitted in court.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou are saying you not repeat the arguments but will highlight them,\u201d the CJP said here, to which Awan stated that he would talk about the independence of the judiciary and Article 191 of the Constitution.<\/p>\n<p>Article 191 (Rules of procedure) states: \u201cSubject to the Constitution and law, the Supreme Court may make rules regulating the practice and procedure of the Court.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The AGP added that three questions were raised during the proceedings on the matter in discussion and he would respond to them. He said Article 191 did not take away the Parliament\u2019s right to legislate.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cParliament has given the judiciary its independence but has also not limited its right to legislate,\u201d Awan said.<\/p>\n<p>Here, Justice Akhtar recalled that before 1973, changes to SC rules were conditional to the permission of the governor general or president.<\/p>\n<p>For his part, the AGP said there were no restrictions on the Parliament amending rules under Article 191.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAre you saying that there are no restrictions on the Parliament amending rules formulated by the SC?\u201d Justice Ahsan asked. \u201cSo are there no restrictions on SC amending laws created by the Parliament?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Awan replied that the Parliament was the institution that created laws. He further stated that if the number of pending cases in the apex court crossed 70,000 a need may arise to create another law.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, Justice Naqvi asked if the AGP had brought the record of the number of parliamentarians who had debated on the practice and procedure law. \u201cIt is present on the website,\u201d Awan replied.<\/p>\n<p>At one point, CJP Isa said institutions should be \u201cpitted against each other\u201d and there should be mutual respect among them.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn my opinion, the Parliament respected the SC. If it wanted, the Parliament could have taken another step which it did not. I believe that step was not taken because the Parliament trusts us,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>The top judge further stated that the scope of the matter should not be widened. \u201cParliament is not our enemy neither does it consider us enemies. Both can be run simultaneously,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe world is moving forward while we are going backwards. There are a number of challenges that we are seeing, including climate change,\u201d Justice Isa added and cited the phrase \u201clive and let live\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>He then instructed the AGP to focus on the attack on the Constitution.<\/p>\n<p>Resuming his submissions, Awan said the Constitution did not recognise any convention but didn\u2019t recognise customs or usages having the force of law.<\/p>\n<p>However, Justice Akhtar stressed that the Constitution has to be read on the premise that there have to be constitutional conventions.<\/p>\n<p>For his part, the AGP said the Constitution never acknowledged the CJP as the \u201cmaster of the roster\u201d. Here, Justice Isa interjected and asked about the genesis of the term and whether it was even used today. Awan replied that the term came from the colonial British times.<\/p>\n<p>The CJP again questioned if such a term existed in Islamic history and criticised the dependence on \u201ccolonial masters\u201d.<\/p>\n<hr\/>\n<p><em>More to follow<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Qazi Faez Isa on Wednesday said the Parliament was not an enemy of the Supreme Court and both institutions could function simultaneously, citing the phrase \u201clive and let live\u201d. \u201cThe world moves forward together, not antagonistically,\u201d the apex judge said. He passed these remarks while heading the full court bench, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":13100,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"fifu_image_url":"https:\/\/i.dawn.com\/large\/2023\/10\/1115105138c6e41.png?r=151101","fifu_image_alt":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[192],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13099","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-islamabad-news"],"acf":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pakistaninewspaperlist.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13099","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pakistaninewspaperlist.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pakistaninewspaperlist.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pakistaninewspaperlist.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pakistaninewspaperlist.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13099"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/pakistaninewspaperlist.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13099\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pakistaninewspaperlist.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/13100"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pakistaninewspaperlist.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13099"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pakistaninewspaperlist.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13099"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pakistaninewspaperlist.com\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13099"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}